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#41007 - 09/12/14 04:47 PM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: NARSH]
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Hang onto that tube, might be worth saving or selling on the black market haha
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#41019 - 09/13/14 02:17 AM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: TLTD]
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The SGX2000 I purchased in 92 for around 650 and the next year upgraded to the express (another $90 for it and $150 more for the X15 Ultra foot) that was allot more money then!

I still have it and was giging with it is my main sound until i picked up the 11 rack almost 2 years ago yes it still works and has some killer sounds especially the dual pitch shifting.

If I could just convince Singtall to pick one up and teach me how to tune that sucker in it would be money hello!!! LOL

Oh yeah it has a stacked tube in it which is 2 12AX7's in one casing and will make some pretty nice distortions with the ability to run them in parallel and in a series and in conjunction with solid-state distortion you could get some very warm and Very smooth tone. that unit was way a head of its time.

I found some web pages with presets but you need a midi connection to your computer.


Edited by jaminjimlp (09/13/14 02:24 AM)
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#41021 - 09/13/14 07:54 AM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: jaminjimlp]
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Hmmm send over the links! I dug my old midi to usb connection to mess with the 2101 so that should work here as well.

Any suggestions for tubes? I just put some sovteks in the 2101 and the sound did improve quite a bit. So I imagine the sgx will need that done as well.
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#41022 - 09/13/14 08:19 AM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: NARSH]
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The stock tubes I had in mine were penta 12ax7's, they weren't too bad. I had jj ecc83's, cheap chinese 12ax7's, the electro harmonix 12ax7's, and even tried a couple nos ge 5157's, but the ones I like the most were the jj ecc803's.. They all give a difference to the texture of the distortion paths..

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#41027 - 09/13/14 10:21 AM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: Downrazor11]
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i used Tungsol tubes when i had mine because i like a little more clarity and in my distortion.

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#41028 - 09/13/14 10:35 AM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: NARSH]
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Originally Posted By: NARSH
Hmmm send over the links! I dug my old midi to usb connection to mess with the 2101 so that should work here as well.

Any suggestions for tubes? I just put some sovteks in the 2101 and the sound did improve quite a bit. So I imagine the sgx will need that done as well.


It's a Tandem Tube... Not sure anyone else makes a single package tube with 2 inside.

http://www.x15setup.com/english.htm
http://www.franknitsch.com/ART/sgx-2000.html#tech
http://www.glennthomas.net/art/sgx2000/
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/ARTSGX2000E/

pm me your email and I will forward the email I got from vic's webpage were he says to "email for the presets"
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#41029 - 09/13/14 11:12 AM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: jaminjimlp]
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Originally Posted By: jaminjimlp

Oh yeah it has a stacked tube in it which is 2 12AX7's in one casing

I've searched around and can't find anything about the tube in the sxg2000 but i did find a guy that talked about sending his to a guy in VA to fix his lcd and said he changed the tube to a Sovtek and he was impressed... so I could be wrong about this but I seam to remember that from somewhere?!?!?!?! confused

this is what ART Says on there site in the discontinued section:
Programmable Preamps. When designing the 2000 Express, our engineers researched and designed a tube preamp circuit that rivals the most classic of vintage tube amps. The result is a sound that is warm, yet brilliant, and breathes the way only a tube amp can. The SGX 2000 Express offers 8 variations of the Tube and the Solid State circuits that have their own unique sound. Choose Tube only or Solid State only, and for maximum gain, run through both preamps by selecting a stacked option. Tone, gain and output are all adjustable. A Tube Contour control, located on the front panel, adjusts the tube's tonal characteristics. There's no need to use a speaker simulator or any other "special" black box when running the SGX directly into a console. The preamp design is so precise you'll swear the guitar is mic'd.

Which now makes me want to try some a hot "Grove Tube" brand tube. btw what do you guys think about grove tubes compared to all others?


Edited by jaminjimlp (09/13/14 11:37 AM)
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#41034 - 09/13/14 02:40 PM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: jaminjimlp]
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Tungsol's were my favorite overall, JJ's are nice too. I'd say for Van Halen & other 80s rock sounds Tungsol's are perfect & for modern metal riffs JJ's. Everything in between is too high or too low output and gotta EQ the noise & crap out of stuff to get what you want, leaving underwater tones.
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#41046 - 09/13/14 08:20 PM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: TLTD]
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OK so far, the SOVTEKs are PERFECT!!! Not to dark, not to bright, tons of punch... I'll post the tune up shortly.
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#41168 - 09/21/14 10:42 AM Re: More of the 11R/GSP2101 Marriage [Re: NARSH]
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Really like the sounds you are getting with the GSP2101/11R combo! I'm intrigued enough to dig out my GSP2101 and try to hook them up. What output are you using from the 2101 into the F/X loop. I messed around with this briefly years ago but wasn't getting the chain and plugs working without distortion. Are using an amp sim in the 11R along with the cab emulation?

Sounds fantastic!

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