Ok.....Major 11R update coming in 20 minutes or so.......In the end it wont change anything, but maybe it will give you guys the final answer that you already know was always there all along......There are a couple of jaw droppers for me in this new info......but you decide.....& one of these things will make you a little mad I'm sure....

Oh & while I did find a way to get the answers I said I'd try to get.....My NAMM trip was always about meeting my favorite players & testing out gear......& that is still going very well.......

More in a few.......

PS-I have an amazing new source that I probably shouldn't mention too....

PSS - I'm also just realizing that this thread was always about Avid & the 11-Rack at NAMM.......I should have started my own w/ my pictures......So I'll stop posting all the pics & updates & just keep this about the 11R at NAMM....& then this thread will stop dead in it's tracks!!!!

No one is working on any kind of an update at all on the Eleven Rack.....Or has been working on anything since the last EXP pack........ This is a fact!!!

Avid lost a lot of it's work force & the major one being Chris Townsend who developed the Eleven Rack Amp Models.......(we all already know this though)

The Amp code process (Amp Models & FX) as I'm told is VERY unique to the team (aka person) who created it.......& the process in which it was developed.......

A new person or team would have a hard time just starting in with more updates as I'm told by my secret source...........

Avid will never say that this is a dead product........

So.....Please take these facts & process that however you need to......

Here's the NEW information that had my jaw hit the floor a bit......

When Chris was developing this he was VERY picky about the amp modeling and end quality........He did not settle at all in this regard........& would not!

There are already a bunch more Amp models already modeled by Chris for the Eleven Rack......It was part of the original process.....Pick a bunch of amps & model them up & release them.......but to keep the quality high......Only the ones we have were tweaked till they were/are perfect in Chris's mind........These other amp models are sitting somewhere at 80% to 95% or something like that.......I was told that there were a lot more amp models too.....fwiw

This info should only tell you in the end that we need Chris Townsend & what did Avid do? Oh yea.....They let Chris go......

So.....Lets stop all the update talk now.....This is the product that we have & it is still a very good product........& will not be updated.....

On a side note here's a picture of a new/old friend of mine......Remember this guy? He's a great player & just a very knowledgable guy in the modeling world!!!!

come on X i am dying here LOL

Dying for what?

So can we get Chris buddy to help us update the other missing amps ?a stretch i know?

i was typing the same time you updated us ! sorry!

Never say never, but I would have to say "No"!

If this was ever going to happen it already would have.......That ship has sailed & moved on.......This is a good, but dead product......Enjoy it for just how awesome it is or move on like others have & buy another brand modeler for $1,500 to $2,000.......

hell i just have scratched the surface with the 11r and it is my second one so i will enjoy for many years to come !

X-Mann:
Hmmm, so how does this information gel with them not providing a standalone editor? If you're telling us because no one has worked on it, then The Chimp and other Avid staff over at Avid's Audio Forum are simply a bunch of liars, and have just been stringing us all along? For what reason? So that they don't have to publicly proclaim it a dead product? Why would Avid's Pro division hold onto the 11R and not just farm it out to another division since nothings being done with it anyway? This all could have been done at that last major shakeup at Avid. Some of this still doesn't add up. So I guess we can assume Chris signed a non-competitive agreement with Avid somewhere along the way with Avid.

My information is 100% in regards to an expansion pack of any kind.........& that alone........

No one would say a thing about a stand alone editor in any way shape or form......So I posted what I did find out about new amp models and FX........

Who knows......Maybe they have a whole team working on a stand alone editor right at this very minute?

I have more detailed information, but I summed up the hard points of what I was told from my source.... He told me where his source came from too.......but I don't think that's important here........For the record: I want a new EXP/update w/ more amps & FX & a stand alone editor too......Who wouldn't?

But in the end I don't care at all.......As it does not effect me at all.......I've loved the 11R from day one & still do......it does everything I need and want it to do & more.....I use it every day & have no problem with the PT editor either......

I'm just passing along the information I obtained today........