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#16567 - 02/29/12 11:58 PM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: moff40]
moff40 Offline
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I posted this in the other thread, but I'll post here too, because it seems relevant:

OK, Sweetwater asked nicely for their patches to be taken down from here, and someone did just that. But hopefully they were taken down as a courtesy, not out of fear of legal action. Sweetwater would like you to think they have some clout on this, but they really don't.

These patches aren't paintings or songs or books; they're just knob positions - and more than that, they're knob positions on "virtual" knobs, in the digital realm. There is nothing proprietary about them - no secret sauce involved. And because of that, they can't be protected under intellectual property laws - if they could be, every one of us that came close to duplicating one could be sued out of existence. One can only imagine the legal free-for-all that would ensue if a given "sound" or "preset" could be considered "intellectual property".

No, the presets are simply a marketing edge, and I understand Sweetwater wanting to protect that edge over the competition, but nobody's going to be sued for sharing them, nor can they be.
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#16570 - 03/01/12 03:56 AM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: moff40]
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I'm have not been sending out the presets at all grin ...Just welcoming guys to the forum & encouraging them to be a part of it....... cool......So Welcome Moff40........ grin

Peace! X-Mann

PS - Check ur e-mail for my "Welcome to the forum" e-mail...... smile
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#16583 - 03/01/12 02:30 PM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: X-Mann]
moff40 Offline
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Cheers, X-Mann.

I've actually been around for a while now, but thanks for the "welcome" wink
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Fender American Tele
2 Fender American Strats
Ibanez RG550
Variax 500
Takamine F-400SEL 12-string
Yamaha APX-6L

Warwick Bass Endorsing Artist:
4&5 string Corvettes

Mesa, Marshall, and Ampeg amps
2 x Avid Eleven Racks

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#16586 - 03/01/12 03:22 PM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: moff40]
X-Mann Offline
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Originally Posted By: moff40
Cheers, X-Mann.

I've actually been around for a while now, but thanks for the "welcome" wink

Yea.....That was the joke.......Enjoy! grin
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#16606 - 03/02/12 06:07 AM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: moff40]
nes Offline
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hi jvstrat the two is better xaxa!!!nice to me my friend keep rocking from athens!!!

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#16724 - 03/06/12 10:36 AM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: nes]
db9091 Offline
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An artist can own their name and NOT have it used on a preset. But Sweetwater can't "own" a preset in any legal sense.

But anybody can bring a frivolous lawsuit against anyone for any reason. And this is typically why small time bloggers run into trouble versus corporate news blogs. One is larger and can't be as easily harassed as the individual against such frivolous court claims.

The POINT of AVID creating the Eleven Rack was to SHARE presets and NOT own or charge for them!! Line 6 does this for the POD.

Sweetwater, in the attempt to create an exclusive package for only their customers, is working AGAINST the intent of the creator of this product!

It's like someone using Wiki pages to create content but then only allowing access to those who pay them!!

In sharing Sweetwater presets, you are being ETHICAL. It is Sweetwater that is being highly unethical in their attempt to squash sharing.

Besides, the second YOU tweak a Sweetwater preset, quess what? It becomes YOUR preset!!

Because ALL Sweetwater tweeks come from AVID's intellectual property as their base.

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#16749 - 03/07/12 04:43 AM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: VaiSatchAtrucci]
089Ray Offline
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mind sharing?
ibanezguy@hotmail.com

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#16750 - 03/07/12 05:35 AM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: 089Ray]
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Welcome to the forum Ibanezguy......Stick around and share all things Eleven with us.....You'll be surprised just how cool this place is.. cool

Peace! X grin
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#16801 - 03/09/12 04:27 PM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: X-Mann]
altspeed Offline
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Registered: 09/20/11
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Is anybody willing to share the Sweetwater presets? I purchased mine with the Sweetwater presets already "mangled."

Thanks in advance for any help!

My e-mail address is:

jonkholl@aol.com

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#16806 - 03/09/12 07:31 PM Re: New 11R presets from Sweetwater? [Re: altspeed]
Ryanjay15 Offline
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Registered: 03/09/12
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X-Mann, your tones on the youtube vids are excellent!! I am new here (and to 11R, just got mine) but just wanted to say hi to all.

you can contact me at rockstarjay1@gmail.com peace!!


Edited by Ryanjay15 (03/09/12 07:32 PM)

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